I woke up around 6:30 AM today and grabbed my phone. I generally peek at my email but today I opened up the Amazon app. I wasn’t fully awake but I pulled the trigger on a couple of books that were in my shopping cart. They were The Holy Trinity Revisited: Essays in Response to Stephen Holmes and Your Will Be Done: Exploring Eternal Subordination, Divine Monarchy and Divine Humility.
The first volume is one I’ve had my eye on for a while. It’s a collection of essays that critically interact with Stephen Holmes’ recent The Quest for the Trinity: The Doctrine of God in Scripture, History and Modernity (US title). I was greatly appreciate of Holmes’ work but had a few complaints of my own. I’ll be interested to see what his interlocutors have to say and see if we share any of the same concerns.
The second volume is one I just recently learned of thanks to this whole blog conversation about eternal functional subordination within the Trinity. Michael J. Ovey is a new name to me but I hope that he’s contributed something meaningful to this debate with this book. Time will tell.
The funny thing is that I fell back asleep for a few minutes after ordering these and I forgot all about it until a little later in the morning after I was at work.
I don’t believe that I mentioned this but the keyboard I got a couple months back to make music with broke after having it for only a month. I came home from work one day, turned it on, and was met with a non-functioning piece of hardware. I couldn’t return it to B&H whom I bought it from because it broke on day 32. They have a 30 day return policy. So I had to go through the manufacturer warranty process.
I contacted Akai once with no answer. I contacted them again with no answer. After a week or so I got two emails from different representatives. One contained instructions on what to do to see if I could get the keyboard working. It didn’t help. So I contacted that rep and told him it didn’t work. No answer, for like two weeks. So I contacted the other one and explained what happened. He responded promptly with instructions on how to get the whole thing going.
So I printed out the address label provided and spent $30 of my own money to ship the thing to one of their repair centers. The other day I got the paperwork on what was wrong (it was something on the circuit board) and what was done to fix it. They promptly shipped it back and now it’s in my possession. I’ll be plugging it in shortly to make sure everything is working properly and then I can get back to my burgeoning career as a music producer.
Just thought I’d share.
UPDATE: Several kind folks sent along copies of the article. Thank you all!
The other day Denny Burk referenced the article “The Obedience of the Eternal Son,” International Journal of Systematic Theology 15/2 (2013): 114-34. Does anyone have a copy of this article that they could pass along? I’d greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
I’ve typed plenty on the debate over eternal functional subordination over the years. Much of what I’ve said can be found in book reviews. Some can be found in dedicated posts to one point of the discussion or another. I’ll leave it to interested readers to search my blog and find all that I’ve said. But I want to repeat something since I keep reading the word “Arian” being used with reference to those who affirm some kind of eternal functional subordination, or eternal authority-submission structure, or eternal asymmetrical order of relation, etc.
If it’s “eternal” then it ain’t “Arian.” It’s really that simple. Arians believed the Son to be a created being. Plain and simple. Yes, he was created “before” time (wrap your head around that one) but the Father existed “before” that. No one who believes that the Son has from all eternity been obedient or submitted to the Father is an Arian because they all believe that for as long as their has been a Father to obey/submit to, there has been a Son who obeys/submits.
That’s my spiel. And a huge thanks to Seumas Macdonald for his roundup of posts on the recent discussion. It saved me a lot of time and energy!
I just saw a review of Kevin Giles’ The Eternal Generation of the Son written by Jim Cassidy on the Reformed Forum blog. It’s a good review. Much more sympathetic to Giles’ work than my own review. Cassidy begins with reference to my review and he agrees with certain points I make but disagrees with others. I only wish I had known about this more than 3 years ago when it was originally posted! It was still good reading though, and I always go back to my reviews of Giles’ books and think that I was unnecessarily harsh at the time of writing them. There’s just something about his stuff that riles me up. In any event, check out Cassidy’s review. It’s worth your time.
My pastor called me up last night and asked me to remind him why I had a problem with the sentiment that we are spirits who have souls and live in bodies. I answered that it’s gnostic at its core and it’s just not what we see in Scripture.
If we go back to the beginning it says that God formed man from the dust of the earth. Notice how it leads with that. Body first. Then he breathed the breath of life into this being and he became a living soul. He didn’t create a disembodied spirit and then make a body for it.
The whole man is body, soul, and spirit (I’m tripartite kind of a dude). Man is not fully man devoid of any one of these elements. Having a body is part of being human. Think about it like this: Could God have saved us apart from the Incarnation? Sure. He’s God, he can do whatever he wants. And yet the eternal Son took humanity upon himself in order to live righteously, suffer for our sins, die as an atoning sacrifice, and rise bodily in order to defeat death. Jesus’ body was essential to his mission.
I just took advantage of Baylor University Press’s 50% off sale (available titles here – use code BJUN at checkout) and got the following books:
Reading Backwards: Figural Christology and the Fourfold Gospel Witness by Richard B. Hays
Gratitude: An Intellectual History by Peter J. Leithart
Jesus and the Demise of Death – Resurrection, Afterlife, and the Fate of the Christian by Matthew Levering
The Betrayal of Charity: The Sins that Sabotage Divine Love by Matthew Levering
Beyond Bultmann: Reckoning a New Testament Theology edited by Bruce W. Longenecker and Mikeal C. Parsons
There were many others that interested me but not so much that I had to pull the trigger on them. Who knows though, the weekend is young.